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Old Jan 10, 2010, 04:00 PM // 16:00   #1
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Just wanted to confirm this is total BS, since I'm 99.99% sure it is but I got an email from "NCsoft Support ([email protected])" With the Title
NCsoft Account Security Risks Notice

Here is the message


When you receive this message when your NCsoft Account means that there are serious security risks.
We have evidence to prove your account has been in different countries and regions, several attempts to login.
So we have to remind you to enter our web site as soon as possible INSERTLINKHERE to account verification, otherwise, we will be lock your account.
In order to protect your interests.

The NCsoft Team

First of all, NCsoft doesn't send emails like this, Second, poor poor grammer, third, login verification? Are you serious? That's just silly. Fourth, Why the heck would they lock the account for MY best interest? Even if it was hacked and stolen I would rather it be used than sit there doing nothing.

Anyone else get this?

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Old Jan 10, 2010, 04:55 PM // 16:55   #3
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i find it hilarious that scammer spent time building a fake NCsoft site yet they never try to have good grammer which is a dead givaway
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #4
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i find it hilarious that scammer spent time building a fake NCsoft site yet they never try to have good grammer which is a dead givaway
Savvy marks will be extra careful and will catch even well written scam attempt.

The kind of people that will give away their information would end up letting it happen even if the e-mail was written in Han Chinese.

It's all about maximum effectiveness with a minimum of effort.
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 07:43 PM // 19:43   #5
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This is what you do. Delete the email message. Put the sender on the spam list. Don't report it on Guru.
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 08:48 PM // 20:48   #6
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This is what you do. Delete the email message. Put the sender on the spam list. Don't report it on Guru.
I for one find it helpful to be in the know about the kinds of scams floating around.
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 09:03 PM // 21:03   #7
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It's NOT impossible for a hacker to relay a fake message through an ncsoft email or on any unprotected server for that matter. This just means ncsoft has shitty email server protection and they should fix that right away.
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 09:48 PM // 21:48   #8
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Savvy marks will be extra careful and will catch even well written scam attempt.

The kind of people that will give away their information would end up letting it happen even if the e-mail was written in Han Chinese.

It's all about maximum effectiveness with a minimum of effort.
Yep - so true.

Many years back my Visa debit card was compromised and used for a spending spree - wiped my account out and maxed the $600 overdraft limit in a matter hours. Left me with about $40 bucks to last me for 2 weeks and took about 6 weeks to correct.

A few months later I got my first phishing email from "a bank" on the East coast telling me my account was jeopordized and I should log in and verify all of my info at "this address". My gut reaction was "now they've opened an account with my info and in my name at a bank 2000 miles away!" Since this was one of the early phishing attempts, the bank didn't recognize what it was at first and put a lot of time and effort into trying to locate my bogus account with them. We talked on the phone for about 20 mins then exchanged emails for a few days (they had me forward the email).

Poor grammar has become very common place and acceptable, so a lot of folks don't even recognize the errors, and if they do it's just something you see everyday, no big deal.
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 10:02 PM // 22:02   #9
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i find it hilarious that scammer spent time building a fake NCsoft site yet they never try to have good grammer which is a dead givaway
Actually, have any of you seen the official NCSoft website? This is their official portal and the grammar is indeed poor. I would actually venture to say you could indeed receive a legit email from NCSoft and write it off as a phishing attempt. I would think such a large global corporation as NCSoft could have afforded to bring in a native speaker to help with their main site. Now to the OP it most definitely was a phishing attempt but just for chuckles check out these top-notch translations:

http://www.ncsoft.net/global/csr/cyber.aspx

"As teenagers’ cyber activities is generalized, they need to know about damage for right language, violent language, vicious post and cyber opinion judgment. In order to make them recognize its severity, we operate an illuminating campaign to expel cyber violence. This will help increase the reliability in gaming so that parents can let children to enjoy the safe game world."

"NCsoft think healthy contents will make strong culture contents industry country and try to make the most fate playground and education field with full of creativity."
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Old Jan 11, 2010, 01:36 AM // 01:36   #10
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This is what you do. Delete the email message. Put the sender on the spam list. Don't report it on Guru.
Well excuuuuuuuuuse me princess!

I know scam email is nothing different but I thought it would be nice to know which ones are around at the moment for the public. Hell I was smart enough to not put in the link.

(Well I did but removed it seconds later)

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Old Jan 11, 2010, 03:29 PM // 15:29   #11
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In passing I added an "Email security" section (number 4) to the security guide here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/g...t10298453.html

(feel free to send comments by PM! these scam emails make me think that I should expand this section)
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Old Jan 11, 2010, 10:17 PM // 22:17   #12
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Firefox + Web of Trust = helpful.
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Old Jan 12, 2010, 05:03 AM // 05:03   #13
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It's NOT impossible for a hacker to relay a fake message through an ncsoft email or on any unprotected server for that matter. This just means ncsoft has shitty email server protection and they should fix that right away.
not sure what you were trying to say . ..

were you trying to say that ncsoft has bad email server protection just because it seems like the guy sent the email from a @ncsoft.com account? it's called phishing . .. you can get the sender's email to show up as anything you want if you know how to.
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Old Jan 12, 2010, 06:13 AM // 06:13   #14
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An e-mail address can be spoofed. You have to look at the detailed information as to what server's where involved to see if the address matches where it actually came from.
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Old Jan 15, 2010, 03:27 PM // 15:27   #15
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Well excuuuuuuuuuse me princess!

I know scam email is nothing different but I thought it would be nice to know which ones are around at the moment for the public. Hell I was smart enough to not put in the link.

(Well I did but removed it seconds later)

Thank you for making this known to the community. Although it hasnt happened to me, or anyone i know personally. I now know it so now if a friend asks about an email like this i can say, well someone on gwguru reported they got the same thing and that its just a scammer trying to get your password, probably off of guildwarsguru. Btw will people ever learn to not use any info for Gw login in your Gwguru login? I guess people dont understand how easy it is to find someone email of a forum then just brute force the email. Thanks for posting ma'am
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Old Jan 15, 2010, 03:41 PM // 15:41   #16
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I recieved this a week ago. My mailfilter deleted it right away.
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Old Jan 15, 2010, 04:24 PM // 16:24   #17
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How do you get these emails? I mean like how do they even know you play Guild Wars to send it to your email? I've been playing for well almost over four years and I've never seen anything except read reports about it on here.
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Old Jan 15, 2010, 04:46 PM // 16:46   #18
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You just do. And its random. I also get crappy mails asking for my WoW information. Never played it; never will. Its just a shot in the dark. Its like winning the lottery. In this case my emailadress got picked out of the hat. The trade in emails is big business and mine must have been picked up somewhere on the internet along the line.

1. I have a good mailfilter program that weeds out the wicked.
2. I have an excellent security suite.
3. I use common sense and never open emails of whom I dont recognize the sender.
5. I always keep my software up to date.
5. I dont download junk or visit malafide sites without propper protection.
4. I sleep well at night.

Cheers.

PS: Up to 2 years ago I recieved over 100 spam mails a day. One day it suddenly all stoped. Funny enough it happened on the same day they arested some bigtime cybercriminal/spammer. He cant be reached rightnow because he's doing 10-15 in some Russian gulag. Nowadys I recieve about 2 spam mails per day.

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